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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:41:53 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Harvey James wrote:so whats the point of this exactly? .. will it speed things up or down? The goal is that you won't notice any difference when playing the game. The primary driver for this change is to get people into the game quicker GÇô both new players, downloading a trial for the first time and existing players patching after major updates. There is less to download before you can enter the game, and the game itself will download the rest as it needs it.
There's going to be a marketing challenge to make sure that new players don't go WTF??????? when they start up and don't see epic graphics right off the bat. Like huge, flashing red letters or something in the download ui.
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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:51:49 -
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Will the server side be able to prioritize initial download requests over back end filler requests?
All of this sounds great btw - and if this is the first software loading scheme implementing this patent the hell out of it now! Gamers that are accustomed to 5+ GB initial downloads will be blown away.
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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:05:18 -
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Sigh.. Your instructions blew away my tranquility desktop icon. lol
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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.16 18:09:52 -
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Can you get a current mirror of accounts onto duality? Resubbed recently.
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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.16 23:11:36 -
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So I went AFK with the Duality launcher up, but not in game because I'm waiting on account info to be updated on the server.
Since I was idling in the launcher - will it continue updating in the background without me being logged in or does further package download not happen until I actually get in game?
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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.17 06:21:21 -
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Rob Kashuken wrote:I predict that this will exacerbate the 'Socket Closed' error messages that a lot of people get.
And in the case where a large number of new players suddenly end up in a reasonably major fight (like the recent one in HED-GP), how will this be impacted by TiDi? We had hundreds of new players, most in basic frigates suddenly seeing bubbles, logi chains, doomsdays as well as a fairly large amount of new models - Titans, Supers and Fighters / Bombers all of a sudden.
As I understand it - EVE components are not strictly downloaded only on demand as encountered. Software components are slowly loading in the background constantly so a few hours of game play will result in the full download being completed (for most people with adequate internet pipes). Until then - basic "structures" are standing in so game play is not hindered.
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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:43:03 -
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Now able to get on today - thanks for the account mirror (although why it came up with only showing "less than day" on the sub time is odd??)
1) Right after selecting toon, I received a security alert from Windows 7. "Windows Firewall has blocked some features of this program" Doesn't bother me, but unexpected? Just flagging this in case something needs to be done in the build.
2) Now in station - ship spinning as usual, everything looks good. Discover that graphics are defaulted to all High - is that expected? Wasn't prompted to make a selection. Since I'm using an already created character maybe I'm past the step that would normally happen at?
3) Undock - 20 seconds of totally black screen (timed). Go from black screen to what appears is fully loaded space (nebulae, station, etc etc)
4) Warp to gate, with warp to - jump. Get a traffic control - but since the next system is probably not populated I can understand that that server needs to load the system. Gate jump looks normal, no warp tunnel
5) Check size of my SharedCache - sitting at 868MB (9K files, 257 folders). Then I realized that it was on C: drive! Ack! My SSD! Dang it. So closed client, and modified the Resource Download -> Shared cache location: to D: drive. Exited Launcher. Restart launcher. Launcher begins downloading 329.75 MB (from launcher progression bar). For my connection takes less than a minute. Working as intended! GJ CCP!
6) Client launch - 15 seconds of black screen, something comes up about login, then another 20 seconds of black screen before I get toon selection page. Select toon - 3 seconds of black screen. I left my toon in space from previous login :) so no objects in space, but neocom and overview are up. Another 45 seconds before I see space background and ship. Everything appears to be in high detail. I'm 14km off gate, so select jump of gate. Engine trails pop in. Gate jump goes smoothly (server preloaded now). Hit gate jump again. Decloak smooth. Open Char sheet and Mail and several other widgets - all open smoothly. SharedCache is at 768MB atm. Putz around for another minute just jumping the same gate back and forth. SharedCache now at 789MB. I keep checking the size for a minute - it is slowly building in size as I do nothing.
7) I go to a third system - jump gate. While in jump I get screen freeze for 18 seconds. This system has a new nebula so I guess it had to load that. SharedCache jump about 18MB's in size. I didn't do a before jump check, so estimating the jump in size.
8) Warp to anom. Takes about 15 seconds anom clouds to load. Info on rat immediately pops up, but rat ship graphic takes 10 sec to load. Large Collidable objects of anom take a bit to load (too many things to time). "Look at" of rat takes 10 seconds to execute - zoom to rat doesn't happen until graphic loads. Low detail first time, high detail second time (after about a 15 second delay when I realize I should look at it again). Go from frigate rat to looking at cruiser rat. 8 second in delay of "Look at", low detail model, then flick to high detail model after 10 seconds. SharedCache (SC) now at 842MB.
9) Warp to Customs Office - arrive edge on, so hard to tell if low res or high res model when I arrive.
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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:44:23 -
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Part 2. Continuing to explore DoD
10) Warp/jump to next system. Hard core traffic control. Lightly loaded server is going to present a real obstacle to finding/judging jump graphics issues. Are delays due to graphics loading or server populating the system?
11) Docked and idled at station while I did a full service bio break. Checking SC size: Start 842MB -> End 1.25GB after being AFK in station for about 1.5hrs. 12,810 files Cool! Station environment definitely at more detail.
12) Going to AP to Jita (15J) so I have more things to look at and check SC growth from the trip. Traffic Control at first gate. Warp tunnel good. No load delay for nex system, but 10 sec delay for AP to start jump for next system. Space view flickered, so maybe a nebula detail change? Read the billboard news while AP slow boats to next gate. IGB popped right up with news page.
Posting this for now while I leave toon on AP and answer RL calls for chore execution.
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KIller Wabbit
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Posted - 2014.12.17 20:45:25 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:Now able to get on today - thanks for the account mirror (although why it came up with only showing "less than day" on the sub time is odd??) [..] Do you encounter problems with you current TQ client after trying it? I had to redownload >7GB and all my settings are gone  I don't want to set up everything again Cant' play with default crap Want play I don't want to set up everything again ...
No, TQ install is just fine. Been on and off of it. Sorry for your loss.
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KIller Wabbit
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:04:02 -
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Ishtarael La'Horae wrote:This is nice, but what I would like to see is a background downloader for patched content similar to what Blizzard does in their battle.net games. This way, we can download the next patch in the background while online in the game so when patch day comes, it won't be such a long wait for the patch to be installed for those 1.5GB content updates.
That doesn't solve the real motivation behind this - getting brand, spanking new customers into EVE as quickly as possible.
Mixed feelings about a delaying the release and having a background loader - it basically requires dedicating 8GB+ more disk space for the patch to preload. That makes EVE a 20GB game?
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KIller Wabbit
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:29:42 -
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Part 3.
13) Made it to Jita. SC is now 1.72GB. Open Market browser - icons for in browser view for sections ripple in quickly. Look at buying a couple of different ships. Text info on each is immediately available. Hull icon graphic pops in after 3 to 5 seconds for each. Hull looks low res. Preview takes 15 seconds to laod. Initial is medium res. Another few seconds popped to hi res, stretching open and zooming in the view confirms at hi res. Abaddon is smexy! :) Repeating the entire process for a Rhea - everything is much faster! hmmm.. I guess shared elements might have helped there.
14) Quit out of client. Launch another client session from launcher that I still had up - launcher locks up!!! This is the second time it has happened, first time I thought I had done something wrong on my end. BUG CCP. Quit out of launcher and restart again. Launch client, quick look at mail, market browse for Tornado, info check Tornado, preview ship (same loading delays as second trial of looking at a hull) . ESC, Quit Game. Use Launcher to start a client again - no problem, although as last time "logging in" screen is up much longer than typical for TQ.
So, whatever is bugging out the launcher I would say it is something that takes time to show up.
15) Pop on a different toon. Check PI - open neocom ui for planet selection, double click first planet in list to invoke planet view. Takes 50 seconds for planet view to load. Double click an extractor to program a cycle - everything comes up immediately. Extractor head movement works just fine. Double click select a different planet to view (first was a Barren) and encounter 15 second delay with black screen. Try a Lava - black screen for 25 seconds. The little unit 3-D hovering icons (extractor, factory, advanced factory, command center, etc) all are there immediately.
16) Inventory - Randomly checking through a large inventory through Personal Assets, found a bunch of Decryptors with "no messageID: 296725" tags on them for item name and similar 296724 for group name. As I scroll through the asset list for this one hanger it takes 10 to 15 secs to load icons for each page. Some come singly, others in batch. There were 156 item stacks that I scrolled through. Opened an "Inventory" UI - it would take around 5 seconds for each container view to populate item icons. One container of 102 items took over 20 seconds to populate the T2 BPC icons. This is all for the graphics only. I could work with each icon immediately (info, open to Industry, etc) without issue.
SC size check: 1.72GB
Running out of things to try and been at it long enough for now. I'd say it is all working pretty darn well for this stage!!
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.18 08:35:57 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:So when you're saying "the resources live in a shared location", by shared location I take it we mean "We're going to dump a load of stuff on your C Drive". Make sure the location of this cache is able to be set in the installer, and will not dump straight to the C Drive, since not all of us use that drive for storing bulk files.
A dialog box in the settings of the Launcher sets this path. See the "Resource Download" tab.
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KIller Wabbit
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.18 08:40:24 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:The name of any given file is simply a hash of the original filename, combined with a checksum of the contents of the file. Does this mean the client's resource storage will be moving more towards many smaller files vs the current setup of big .stuff archives?
Straight from the Dev Blog (3rd sentence in):
"We're moving away from having resources packed into the stuff files in the EVE installation folder, to downloading individual resources on demand. "
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KIller Wabbit
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.19 14:27:32 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:DoToo Foo wrote:[..]
General comments; each of the freeezes I am experiencing feel like the client has crashed. One stated purpose is to get newbies in the game faster. so leaving me thinking that I have crashed is not going to inspire confidence in a newbie.
[..] That's why I suggested a loading wheel. So you actually know the client is working on something and not dead.
This is a good suggestion. The only reason I knew I was getting data during my testing was to keep checking the properties of the SC folder.
Should it be on the launcher, the client, or both?
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KIller Wabbit
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.20 19:54:08 -
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Blue Harrier wrote:Just a minor note;
If you uninstall Duality using the uninstall.exe program in the folder it may reset everything in your TQ Eve client back to a new install. I did this while testing and on starting my TQ Eve client got worried when it started playing the introduction video on login. Once in the game I found everything was completely reset, overview, windows, esc menu settings, everything, so be warned.
Perhaps some OS experts will chime in, but given how self contained EVE is a simple directory and icon delete is probably all that is needed to remove an EVE test install. Let the OS clean up any link foo later on.
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